Russell

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:59 pm

I recieved my cut down version of russell today, being the first time id seen it. i have to say im very pleased, with an endless list of modifications due to the roundhouse model being completely innacurate, my grandad has made no compromises in making this correct. just thought id share the pictures here, the last photo shows it posing along with three of the four coaches that make up the 'rainbow' train.

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Narrow Minded · Post by **Narrow Minded** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:16 am

Very nice model, but the subject matter is definitely in the Marmite category for me.

I much prefer the "un-modded" version of the original, but that's just personal taste - I can still appreciate your loco for what it is

Keith S · Post by **Keith S** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:47 am

Wow, that completely changes the look of the engine. I'm not entirely sure which version I would like better if they were both full-size and standing next to one another. But the new version certainly looks more like a full-size prototype. Your grandfather certainly knows how to make a good-looking model. It even looks like he's done something to the valve gear, like smaller bolts and rounder edges or something. I like it. The coaches look good too.

Spule 4 · Post by **Spule 4** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:31 am

Wow, quite the improvement.

thecsmann · Post by **thecsmann** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:46 am

that does look good. as you say the roundhouse one does look a bit odd, but i will have to make do with it.

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:36 am

To be honest I also much prefer the origional profile, but I wanted something that isnt usually modelled, which is why I went for that era. And yes, all the valve gear has been pretty much remade, making it alot thinner than before, I'm glad you noticed!

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:28 am

"Beautiful" is perhaps the wrong word for a cut-down Russell, but it's an impressive conversion and should turn a few heads at steam-ups

Does the new gas tank affect the running time?

LMS-Jools · Post by **LMS-Jools** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:39 am

Narrow Minded:68735 wrote:Very nice model, but the subject matter is definitely in the Marmite category for me. ;)
I much prefer the "un-modded" version of the original, but that's just personal taste - I can still appreciate your loco for what it is :D

Ditto

Endless, Nameless · Post by **Endless, Nameless** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:38 pm

That's wonderful

completely transformed.

MDLR · Post by **MDLR** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:35 pm

That's a very nice loco (and train) - something DEFINITELY out of the ordinary!

Keith S · Post by **Keith S** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:38 pm

taliesin001:68753 wrote:To be honest I also much prefer the origional profile, but I wanted something that isnt usually modelled, which is why I went for that era. And yes, all the valve gear has been pretty much remade, making it alot thinner than before, I'm glad you noticed!

Actually the more I look at it, the more I like your model. If you like the little figures some people put in their models, I think it would highlight the shortness of the cab and the little cut-outs they put in there for the driver to stand up in. I'm assuming they cut the cab down to give it clearance through a tunnel or something?

Also I can't find the reverse lever in the cab of your loco, but the regulator doesn't seem to have a servo. Is it R/C or manual? I like the wood decking in the cab, I might help myself to that idea and put a wood floor in my "billy".

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:53 pm

To answer the questions, the loco is RC but hasnt been entirely fitted yet, so I havent run it and therefore cant say how much effect the new gas tank will have. Cant wait to give it a go though!

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:07 pm

Hey, I like this. And it's likely unique given most people's perference for the full-size dealie.

The 'cut down' look seems to work really well for it. Can't figure why but eh.

Spule 4 · Post by **Spule 4** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:20 pm

dougrail:68846 wrote:Hey, I like this. And it's likely unique given most people's perference for the full-size dealie.

The 'cut down' look seems to work really well for it. Can't figure why but eh.

Quite a bit more "chunky" and looks right. The as built version looks just too tall and too big for 16mm. Unfortunately, a lot of RH stuff and most everything made by Accucraft suffer from this.

A bit of a trade-off tho for bigger boilers and longer run-times and the ability to re-gauge between 32 and 45mm.

Keith S · Post by **Keith S** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:31 pm

I've never bothered to measure my 16mm rolling stock and the height of my locomotive to see if the locomotive is excessively oversized. I have one "15mm" scale wagon however, and its roof is exactly the height of the locomotive. I've noticed that many times the locomotives tower over the rolling stock on the real narrow gauge railways too.

This version of Russel does match the wagons nicely though. There must have been a tunnel on the line that made the shortening necessary.

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:46 pm

yes the loco was origionally cut down so that it could run on the ffestiniog to blaenau, however the modification still failed

Keith S · Post by **Keith S** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:54 am

What, you mean after all that work, it still wouldn't fit through the tunnel? That must have been disappointing.

Pendo Pilot · Post by **Pendo Pilot** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:24 am

I like it a lot. Just looks superb, can I borrow your grandad?

TommyDodd · Post by **TommyDodd** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:00 am

Keith S:68921 wrote:What, you mean after all that work, it still wouldn't fit through the tunnel? That must have been disappointing.

It would fit, just, but with absolutely no room to spare. This meant that in the event of a failure in the tunnel the crew wouldn't have enough wriggle room to dismount and go forward on foot to get help- a potentially dangerous situation and not one they could live with.

Marquis DeCarabas · Post by **Marquis DeCarabas** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:55 am

TommyDodd:68933 wrote:
Keith S:68921 wrote:What, you mean after all that work, it still wouldn't fit through the tunnel? That must have been disappointing.
It would fit, just, but with absolutely no room to spare.

ISTR that in the first preservation rebuild there were remains of a BFO scar down one side (probably from Garnedd) and I have seen some discussion somewhere about whether or not Russell ever made it to TyG. I think not, but it's a long while since I've looked at that bit of paperwork.

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