Stolen Roundhouse Engines

[Gaza07]

My dad has had his shed burgled in the langley mill / nottingham area and has had four Roundhouse engines stolen, the engines are shown in the pictures below

1 x Billy named               LESLIE                       Serial# NDM5102
1 x Billy named               NUMPTY                    Serial# MJP6394
1 x Lady Anne named    LILLIAN                        Serial# HAM2005
1 x Argyll name               CAMPBELTOWN      Serial Unknown (bought second hand)










If anyone sees any of these for sale please contact me by email or phone gaza07@hotmail.co.uk  07505 138530

Thanks
Gary

[Mike PVLR]

Good luck in getting those back Gary, I'm sure everybody will keep their eyes open for you. What part of the country are you in ?

[Gaza07]

Hi Mike thanks for the reply Im in the Nottingham / Derbyshire area

Good luck in getting those back Gary, I'm sure everybody will keep their eyes open for you. What part of the country are you in ?

[Mike PVLR]

a little way from me in sunny wigan, but I'm sure everyone will look out for you. Thats the really nice thing Ive found with this hobby.

[Gremlin]

I hope this is a chance break in and not related to the last collection of locos that was stolen not so long ago.
Must admit that I brought mine into the house following that report.
I hope you have some luck in thier return and I'm sure everyone will keep thier eyes open.

[JMORG]

B******'s! These thieves are a real menace!
Our neighborhood is in a very quiet area in Gloucester, but several garages were broken into recently, with enough bikes (ours included) to fill up a transit were nicked (I say Transits because these thieves were apparently organised, likely the "any old iron" folk).
All of our Loco's and stock and buildings are now insured (which provideds little comfort considering the hours gone into them! )
I hope you find them succesfully! If I see these locomotives for sale, I will contact you immediately.
All the best of luck!

[Dwayne]

Sorry to hear of the loss. Here in Oklahoma if someone breaks into my place (we have castle doctrine) they'll be dragged away in a body bag after being perforated by several rounds of .45acp.

[Gaza07]

Thanks for the kind replies we are waiting to hear if the house insurance offers any cover
We don't think this was planned and was just scum bags robbing sheds that dropped across my dads as it cant be seen easily, the neighbour had all his power tools taken to,
It makes you feel sick to the stomach when some thing like this happens

[Enginehouse]

This situation can only get considerably worse as time goes on. A specific insurance is alway the best route to follow. After all, the relative cost is pennies compared to the uninsured loss of steam locos and associated stock. As for keeping stock in flimsy wooden sheds provided by the well known DIY chains - that also is evidently not the best idea. Many flimsy garden sheds housing thousands of pounds worth of GR gear cost less than the price of one mid priced loco and with the shed contents completely uninsured is surely not really the best idea.

Best insurance of course is probably inside storage protected by an alarm system. Razor wire internal climb barriers along boundaries and intruder triggered floodlights are no more difficult to install than the average GR track and in the long run might be considerably more profitable to install than the next planned extension.

[Spule 4]

I hope this is a chance break in and not related to the last collection of locos that was stolen not so long ago.

What I fear every time when I hear about this that posting photos, videos, discussion, of our items may be putting us in some form of jepoardy, along with meets, open houses, etc. Especially when other items are not taken as in a few other cases.

Sorry to hear of the loss. Here in Oklahoma if someone breaks into my place (we have castle doctrine) they'll be dragged away in a body bag after being perforated by several rounds of .45acp.

Unfortunately I don't think our friends in the UK can protect themselves anymore. Not an issue around here, my neighbor was sighting in a new rifle in front of my house about 5 hours ago. When we bought our house in '96 you couldn't even lock it.

[MikeD]

Thanks for the kind replies we are waiting to hear if the house insurance offers any cover  :roll:
We don't think this was planned and was just scum bags robbing sheds that dropped across my dads as it cant be seen easily, the neighbour had all his power tools taken to,
It makes you feel sick to the stomach when some thing like this happens

I'm sorry to hear this. The stuff I had stolen recently was covered under my house insurance OK, but of course it's not quite the same...
I've managed to replace almost all the Accucraft rolling stock, as that was either still available, or retailers had stock. Steam locos are a different matter though, as there seems to be a bit of a shortage at the moment, however at least now I have the insurance money I can put orders in.

Mike D

[Dwayne]

Unfortunately I don't think our friends in the UK can protect themselves anymore.  Not an issue around here, my neighbor was sighting in a new rifle in front of my house about 5 hours ago.   When we bought our house in '96 you couldn't even lock it.

Very unfortunate. Perhaps in time they'll rediscover the axiom that an armed society is a polite society.

On the short dead end street where I live, my neighbor across the street is an instructor for firearms carry. Like myself, he also open carries. His parents who live beside him, both conceal carry. And his cousin, who lives beside me, along with his wife both conceal carry. A few weeks ago his father came over to ask if I needed any .45acp as ammo supplies are in short supply and they do a lot of reloading. I thanked them and told them I was well stocked for now.

[Spule 4]

Unfortunately I don't think our friends in the UK can protect themselves anymore.  Not an issue around here, my neighbor was sighting in a new rifle in front of my house about 5 hours ago.   When we bought our house in '96 you couldn't even lock it.

Very unfortunate. Perhaps in time they'll rediscover the axiom that an armed society is a polite society.

On the short dead end street where I live, my neighbor across the street is an instructor for firearms carry. Like myself, he also open carries. His parents who live beside him, both conceal carry. And his cousin, who lives beside me, along with his wife both conceal carry. A few weeks ago his father came over to ask if I needed any .45acp as ammo supplies are in short supply and they do a lot of reloading. I thanked them and told them I was well stocked for now.  :)

Agreed. The only issue I have is when my neighbor's kids smoke pot and decide to skeet shoot OVER my house.

Sure, some cite a higher firearms related murder rate in the US, but when you adjust out the criminal Vs. criminal rates, look at what happens.

I have a friend that reloads. One thing you can do is use spent shells for making Meths burners. Ask me how I know this.

[Keith S]

Like myself, he also open carries. His parents who live beside him, both conceal carry.

I hope this doesn't offend you unduly, but who cares? Is there a philosophical difference between carrying a concealed weapon versus hanging it on your belt like an old-timey sheriff? Or does it just force everyone to be a little more polite than they would otherwise be if they weren't a little nervous about the vaguely implied threat?

[Spule 4]

Like myself, he also open carries. His parents who live beside him, both conceal carry.

Or does it just force everyone to be a little more polite than they would otherwise be if they weren't a little nervous about the vaguely implied threat?

Exactly, as we say here in TN, that looks like a house "where a gun might live".

[Sylvian Tennant]

I'm sorry to hear about your father locos and I hope they can apprehend the undividuals who have cause great distress.

Though I personally would like to shoot anybody who wants to steal my beloved engine I feel the idea of owning a gun somewhat academic as for the foreseeable future it won't happen.

I hope to not alarm anyone with my statement here for one, I personally don't want to own a gun nor shoot anybody but the idea of some person stealing my engine or anything personal to me, fills me with rage.

Anyway, let's refrains from political/social arguments of gun control and look at trying to think about preventative measures for next time and how to try to retrieve stolen items.

I'll keep an eye out for anything Gaza07

[Keith S]

Do you guys think it's likely these engines will appear on a second hand dealer's table, or on Ebay? Does that happen sometimes, that stolen engines re-appear? Where else might someone look? Are there thieves who know about live steam engines and deliberately seek them out?

Would it be worth making a poster with a picture of one of the engines that says "stolen: reward" on it to put in local shops? That way if the thieves' parents or siblings see the poster they might recognise the model train? Maybe they don't know their value and don't find it odd that their family member suddenly has a model "train". Or, if they are not just petty thieves or bad teenagers, where would a "professional" try to fence something like this? Lady Annes and Billys don't show up that often on Ebay. If we were to search Ebay for likely cases, what would we enter in the search parameters? Maybe it would be better to enter "metal toy train" or something instead of "Roundhouse Billy", because if a thief knew enough about the engines to identify them properly, he might be too smart to try and put them on Ebay. What about boot sales? Maybe even checking in skips around the area, in case the thieves were idiot teens who, once having stolen the items for kicks, then tossed them away to lose the evidence after thinking about it for a while and realizing they would be difficult to sell on.

Are there any other garden railways in your area? Is it possible there is an evil model railway enthusiast who would steal the engines and repaint them for himself?