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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:15 am
by ge_rik
I was going to say that this looked very much like a Peter Butler project and then noticed it was you who posted it.
I think you might have needed to wallpaper it rather than trying to paint that livery, Peter.
Rik
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:55 am
by Peter Butler
Somewhere I have seen a colour illustration of that loco, so in theory it might be possible to copy and print 'wallpaper'? I still think it is a step too far to build one, and besides that, my Viceroy has retired!
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:16 pm
by dudeface
GAP wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:27 pm
Speaking tube,
Duh...
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:56 pm
by GAP
dudeface wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:16 pm
GAP wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:27 pm
Speaking tube,
Duh...
Make/ask a silly statement/question expect a silly answer. Australian humour
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:44 pm
by rebelego
Peter Butler wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:19 pm
This is the vehicle I have wanted to build more than any other for many years but always chickened out!...
This loco can be found at the Egyptian Railway Museum in Cairo.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3611/351 ... cde2_b.jpg
https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsConten ... airo-.aspx
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:43 pm
by Peter Butler
Wonderful news that the loco survives today, I have read the article and will do more research on it now, so thank you for the information!
I still have doubts it will make an appearance in model form, but it is a definite maybe.
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:58 pm
by rebelego
Found some info here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrainPorn/comm ... iceroy_of/
Three of these distinctive 2-2-4 locomotives were built in the late 1850s and early 1860s by Robert Stephenson & Co in Newcastle, each with a luxurious saloon mounted behind the footplate. According to a contemporary issue of the Newcastle Courant, “The exterior of the train is decorated with arabesque designs of black, white and gold, in the first style of art, from the designs of Mr Digby Wyatt”. One of them, known as the Pasha's train, can be admired today in the railway museum in Cairo.
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:03 am
by philipy
On the subject of weird and wonderful Egyptian loco's, how about this one?
- egyptiangeographic.com_1570794900_1.JPG (212.11 KiB) Viewed 78011 times
I found it on this site:
https://egyptiangeographic.com/en/news/show/478
Plus on this link is a coach to go with the very ornate Pasha's loco seen previously:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/super-br ... ran-tahoun
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:21 pm
by Peter Butler
There are some magnificent beasts there but finding a way to narrow gauge them to 2ft. might be a problem. Perhaps that's why I haven't tried before?
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
by dudeface
I guess that's sort of a secondary boiler on the top?
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:38 pm
by Keith S
My guess is it's some kind of feedwater heater. If so, it's the biggest one I've ever seen.
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:52 am
by ge_rik
OK - This gives a whole different meaning to "Tank Locomotive"
- tank loco.JPG (54.08 KiB) Viewed 77377 times
Rik
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:51 pm
by dudeface
Yeah........... except it's not real. Definitely photoshopped.
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:54 pm
by ge_rik
dudeface wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:51 pm
Yeah........... except it's not real. Definitely photoshopped.
Interesting, I did wonder why the upper tracks weren't in evidence.
Rik
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:55 pm
by drewzero1
dudeface wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:51 pm
Yeah........... except it's not real. Definitely photoshopped.
Not
yet, anyways... I think I left those tank treads around here somewhere...
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:42 pm
by Peter Butler
This one is definitely not photoshopped, therefore must be real...
- IMG_8381.JPG (100.27 KiB) Viewed 77320 times
Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:57 pm
by dudeface
Re: Ugly locomotives
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:43 am
by dudeface
Re: Ugly locomotives
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:52 am
by dudeface
drewzero1 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:51 am
On the thread where I found it, someone suggested it was indeed to improve draft, and also that it was an odd feature on something that wasn't a rack loco. I have seen a particular make of traction engines use the same kind of slanted boiler, can't remember which it was though.
I just realized that this is actually putting the boiler in the same situation it would be in on a cog railway loco without an angled boiler... seriously, what kind of nut came up with this?
Re: Ugly locomotives
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:27 pm
by drewzero1
We might have mentioned this one here,
The Wisconsin connection is interesting (some were manufactured under license here). I have some ancestors who worked in logging around that time, wonder if they ever worked with these?
