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Post by GTB » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:04 am

laalratty:76518 wrote:I really HATE seeing locos with air pumps but no air pipes. Problem is nobody that I know of does commercial castings, so thinking how to do it.
They are available online from the US.

Ozark Miniatures does them in whitemetal for 1:20 scale which include flexible hose in the pack.

http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/Scripts/default.asp

Lineside Details (available online from Caboose Hobbies) supplies just the tap and the coupling in lost wax brass, also in 1:20.

http://www.tracksidedetails.com/

I've fitted the Ozark ones (cat. no. 0041) to my rolling stock, but plan to use the brass ones on the new loco.

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Post by MuzTrem » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:17 am

laalratty:76518 wrote:I really HATE seeing locos with air pumps but no air pipes. Problem is nobody that I know of does commercial castings, so thinking how to do it. Meanwhile, it would look daft with my stock having just air pipes so it is being dual fitted, just like the real one was for a time in the 1990's
I know what you mean! I'd like to fit air pipes to my own Russell but, because I can't afford a proper carrying case at the moment, I'm a little bit worried that they be quite vulnerable to being broken off. I wonder if anyone can offer advice on this?

It would be nice to see the full-size engine dual-braked again when it returns to steam, so it could run with the FfR's vintage stock as well as the WHHR's...

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Post by MDLR » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:39 am

MuzTrem:76534 wrote:................I'm a little bit worried that they be quite vulnerable to being broken off. I wonder if anyone can offer advice on this?
The ones I USED to have on my locos were reasonably robust - fitting them was something of a pain but operationally they were an absolute NIGHTMARE, getting in the way of coupling and uncoupling. And don't get me started on actually connecting the blasted things...........

They'll look very nice on the front buffer beam, but not anywhere else..............

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Post by ptlrcecil » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:44 pm

A locomotive with a westinghouse and no air pipes might be air braked on the loco only though. 419 at boness is like that I seem to recall.

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Post by LMS-Jools » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:57 pm

Very nice, look forward to seeing it for real. :D

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Post by laalratty » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:36 pm

ptlrcecil:76538 wrote:A locomotive with a westinghouse and no air pipes might be air braked on the loco only though. 419 at boness is like that I seem to recall.
'fraid not Si, looking at http://www.pbase.com/ianbell/image/39904117 three pipes can be seen at the front. One will be vacuum, another steam heat and the one to the right of the draw-hook looks supiciously like an air pipe

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Post by ptlrcecil » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:48 pm

Well we never use air for the stock so same difference :roll: . Any whoo 419 Is still in god knows how many pieces and will be so untill the brass pixies return the brand new axle boxes most likely.

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Post by laalratty » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:10 pm

Over a year later, and I've finally got round to making a pair of air pipes for the Russell, and getting rid of that feature I don't like, the loco having an air pump but not pipes for air braking!
Since no British manufacturer does air pipes I'd had to be inventive, luckily I've got access to plenty of offcuts of copper wire since a friend on my dads is an electrician. This I have used for the pipe on the loco, whilst I've used wire insulation for the flexible section, but with a thin section of wire inside to hold it in shape. Where I've had to be really inventive is the palm connecter, but what I've done is cut a section from a broken IP engineering small bogie, and then carved it to shape with a variety of files

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The first pipe nearly complete, I'd like to solder on a thin section of wire to represent the stop valve. Note also that the second palm connector has been cut out but work has not yet started on carving it to shape

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Trying out on the loco for size, obviously before completion the pipes will be painted. A new hole will then be drilled in the bufferbeam and the pipestand glued in place

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Post by LnBmad » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:27 pm

Nice touch that!

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Post by Dannypenguin » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:54 am

That Russell is just the business, the best one I have seen :D

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Post by GardenRail » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:49 am

laalratty:72337 wrote:I think it's about time to spill....




I've already done some mods with the paintbrush, the wheels are now black on the strict advice of TonyW and I did Urien's whilst I was at it. The coal rails are also black, but there is a long way to go yet. But overall I am delighted with the loco :)
Could do those cylinder endplates as well javascript:emoticon(':D')

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Post by laalratty » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:43 pm

Look in the photo above Tag, they have been done, admittedly I only got around to it a month or two back!
Incidentally I know of a loco with a copper cover over the ends of the cylinders, one probably for the "prototype for everything" brigade, although I have also found a 12 inch/foot loco with unpainted wheels as well....

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Post by GardenRail » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:41 am

laalratty:94362 wrote:Look in the photo above Tag, they have been done, admittedly I only got around to it a month or two back!
Incidentally I know of a loco with a copper cover over the ends of the cylinders, one probably for the "prototype for everything" brigade, although I have also found a 12 inch/foot loco with unpainted wheels as well....
Yes - my fault - missed second page :) This loco is looking lovely...

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Post by TonyW » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:39 am

laalratty:94362 wrote:... I have also found a 12 inch/foot loco with unpainted wheels as well....
Unpainted as in polished to a mirror finish? Pray tell!
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Post by St.Michael » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:22 pm

Ooooh, I like that loco :shock: :shock:
Congrats with a beautiful result!
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Post by laalratty » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:38 pm

TonyW:94378 wrote:
laalratty:94362 wrote:... I have also found a 12 inch/foot loco with unpainted wheels as well....
Unpainted as in polished to a mirror finish? Pray tell!
Not to a mirror finish I must admit, and having "seen the light" on this particular bit of detailing, I would still paint them (and recommend others to do likewise) but the loco in question is Fox on the Kirklees Light Railway

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Post by TonyW » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:00 am

laalratty:94421 wrote:... the loco in question is Fox on the Kirklees Light Railway
OK, but they look painted to me...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajax46/7149485731/

The pony wheels have polished rims but the wheels themselves are painted.

As an aside, in the USA it is a requirement that all rail wheels and couplings are left unpainted to make fault detection easier. All this unpainted metal quickly goes rusty, and gives the odd sight of a brand-new loco with rusty wheels and couplings:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=168037
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Post by laalratty » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:28 pm

Interesting, I was sure the wheels were unpainted, having noticed when I was last at the KLR in September 2012 and thinking that it was highly unusual.
Didn't know about the USA situation, most interesting

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Post by tom_tom_go » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:15 pm

This is how I justify having brass or copper looking cylinder covers on my locos:

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(Apologies for the poor scanning, rebuilt my machine recently so don't have all my software installed yet)

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Post by Soar Valley Light » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:36 pm

Is that a colour photo T-T-G? If so it must be fairly unique of a Garrett in LMS days.

I'm mildly surprised to see the cylinder covers so highly polished, they weren't the most popular of machines amongst the blokes, especially the rotating bunker variety! However, it clearly illustrates the point.
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