Time to build a railway...but where?

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Arkandier

Post by Arkandier » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:06 am

Hello there! Maybe another idea:

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Post by Arkandier » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:21 am

Great work. Very funny. Can't wait for the next step!

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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:41 am

I have made some military vehicles on rails before. Here is one of them:
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Arkandier

Post by Arkandier » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:11 am

But I'm not sure that this 2CV is a real military car...

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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:14 pm

Arkandier:91670 wrote:But I'm not sure that this 2CV is a real military car...
If you look at my posts you will see that reality is not one of my main concerns. If it is based on something or just looks as though it might have been possible then I will do it!

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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:22 pm

Back to the 'push-me-pull-you'..... As previously mentioned I needed to connect the two vehicles. This is done with a brass flat strip soldered to a square tube underneath the flat. The tube contains the wires and keeps them out of sight. The flat is drilled at either end and screwed/bolted to the chassis allowing the cars to flex .

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Next..... switch and batteries (to follow)

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Post by jim@NAL » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:16 pm

that's brillent I love it.

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:03 am

Cattle Dock time......
I have already explained how I made the slate base for the dock, now I have continued with the top and animals to fill it.
 I decided not to keep all of my scenic features outdoors.  I have room to store them in my 'Engine Shed' underneath the layout so anything which might be ruined by damp/frost etc. will be brought in.
The cattle dock falls into this category so the slate effect base is made from a large sheet of plasticard topped with small, random sized plasticard blocks with the edges scraped to show signs of wear, then painted with acrylic colours to give a slate effect.
A coat of varnish seals the paint.

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The fencing is made from hardwood strips and steel rod.   Each post is drilled at the same height using a jig to ensure they are all the same.  The steel rod is then threaded through and superglued in place with smaller section timber posts representing gates.

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A site test to see if it looks ok and I'm happy with it so far.

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Finally my heard is permanently attached to the base with screws up into their feet.  (no animals were harmed during this process!)
I'm sorry it is on a red background as it looks like they are already in the abatoir.  Unfortunately it has been raining so heavily I couldn't get out to photograph the finished item on site.

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jay1976

Post by jay1976 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:13 pm

you might be able to fit a small rc receivor and electric speed controller in the battery car at a later date if you wanted

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:39 pm

There is probably enough room in the car for RC but it might not be required if I just use it on the circuit with no need to shunt or run round.
Some other stock must have RC and I will be looking at the NEC for items on Saturday.

Big Jim

Post by Big Jim » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:57 pm

Nice work on the 2CV Peter. This is one of the few French cars I actually like working on!
Now I may be wrong but I think there may be a prototype rail 2CV. I seem to remember seeing one as a small boy at a railway museum in Denmark of all places.
Now how about a rail landrover!
If you fancy having a go at a real one I will pull the tyres off one of mine and we can sling it on the gwili when no one is looking. :D

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Post by Peter Butler » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:54 pm

Big Jim:92117 wrote: Now how about a rail landrover!
If you fancy having a go at a real one I will pull the tyres off one of mine and we can sling it on the gwili when no one is looking. :D
Now there's a challenge!
If you really can spare one, let's give it a try.

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Post by Big Jim » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:33 pm

Sadly at the moment I need more projects like I need a hole in the head. However once Wellington is finished (The rolling resto I acquired 7 years ago that has turned into a full nut and bolt rebuild) I will be looking for something interesting to do with Muriel (they daily hack) until I can pass her on to my son and heir.
It could be a bit of a giggle although its has been done before.
The interesting one to do it with would be the Nobel 200 (google it!) I have hidden away.

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Post by Peter Butler » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:42 pm

The cattle dock is complete......
Pictures show it on site with all ten cattle and calves installed, ramp attached and all fencing and gates in place. It's not designed to stay out and just lifts off when I'm finished.

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LnBmad

Post by LnBmad » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:44 pm

Great job peter! What you planning for your next little project?

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Post by Peter Butler » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:04 pm

LnBmad:92248 wrote: What you planning for your next little project?
Just so many things I would like to do!
I certainly need a cattle wagon and having seen the kit price I have decided to scratch-build one.
The viaduct needs side girders which will be made of plasticard with frames and plastic rivets. I have promised myself this will be a winter project and finished by next season.   Only 14 sections to make, each a different size as it is on a curve!
Buildings......  At Warley show, NEC, I bought a stencil with a fine powder to mix into a paste. This creates wonderful stone effect on  timber form buildings, not suitable to keep outdoors but I don't intend to leave structures out because of the restriction of materials you can use to give detail.
When I begin I will post reports on progress.
I am so lucky to have the time to do these things.

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Post by Andrew » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:54 am

Peter Butler:92249 wrote:The viaduct needs side girders which will be made of plasticard with frames and plastic rivets. I have promised myself this will be a winter project and finished by next season.   Only 14 sections to make, each a different size as it is on a curve!
Oooh, keep us posted on that one... I need to build a bridge (possibly this winter) and was thinking of a very similar technique. My plan was to add a plasticard shell around a ply interior for strength, but I'm wary of using the wrong glue and then watching the whole thing fall to bits. Could use little pins instead of some plastic rivets I suppose, that might help keep the plastic and wood bits joined together......

Anyway, loving the progress on the railway, thanks for the updates.

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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:21 pm

My sides will be made of 2mm plasticard which is cut into strips from large sheets in one piece. Added to this are narrow strenghening pieces and framework to give the impression of panels. Rivets made from punched plasticard are stuck onto the frames.
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There is such strength in this that I will not be using any other material. Certainly not plywood as it is sure to swell and delaminate in the wet.
The unknown factor is how it will hold up against UV from sunlight? I'm hoping that a good plastic primer and top coat will protect it from this.
The viaduct is on a curve but each section has straight sides so no bending will be needed.


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Post by Andrew » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:10 am

Thanks Peter, very helpful - I shall draw appropriate inspiration. Or, more likely, just blatently copy you! I guess the glue you use is the stuff you mention further up-thread?

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Post by METHSSNIFFER » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:43 pm

Nice job on the dock does need a bit of weathering though in respect of some cow dung etc. I found using the real thing attracts too many flies so I used das modelling clay to form pats. It does work well but for realism it has to be the real thing.

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