What loco is it ?

Bandit · Post by **Bandit** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:01 pm

I found this cute steam engine on HGLW website. What loco is it ?

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:20 pm

Thats an early IP Engineering Jane with what look like PPS wheels

its still available these days as the much improved Roy Wood Models Janet

steamie1 · Post by **steamie1** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:29 pm

There is a light green one on Ebay now. Don't forget Mamod Ltd's grey MK2 which is a cracker too..

jay1976 · Post by **jay1976** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:17 pm

pm dhippy as thats his buisness and loco he might have more better pics to share with you

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:22 am

steamie1:90856 wrote:There is a light green one on Ebay now. Don't forget Mamod Ltd's grey MK2 which is a cracker too..

There's something off about that loco, it seems to have a mis-match of bits like instead of an ip regulator it has a PPS regulator and the green doesn't match on the cab ect

Also I bought an engine off him once, got email a few minutes later saying that he had dropped it down a flight of stairs damaging it irreparably and refunded me.
Since then the same engine with the same pics has been back on eBay something like 7 times.

Really you would be better off just paying a little extra and getting the more refined version from Roy Wood

Bandit · Post by **Bandit** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:46 am

Thanks for your answers. Very helpful.

Bandit · Post by **Bandit** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:53 pm

Can I use these locos on 45mm track ?
I'm a "45mm guy" if you see what I mean...

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:39 pm

Bandit:90870 wrote:Can I use these locos on 45mm track ?
I'm a "45mm guy" if you see what I mean...

You can't re gauge them but their available in either 45 or 32 you just need to specify when you order

Bandit · Post by **Bandit** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:56 pm

OK! Thanks.

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:55 pm

JSYK Anything Narrow Gauge has a second hand IP Jane, Marroon, 45mm listed on their site at £295

A very trustworthy and reputable source, Iv bought many engines from them

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:36 pm

I could not find the eBay IP Jane you have been discussing last night, but that is because the listing was ended early by the seller.

It is my understanding, which David Hippey could confirm, that these flared and rivet detailed smokebox's were originally cast for the Brandbright Jane, which of course was made by IP Engineering before they then sold them direct.

The eBay IP Jane had several options fitted. A brass dome, the optional cab assembly (these were supplied painted by IP Eng, but un-painted by PPS & now RWM, which may explain the difference in colour shade), and a gas burner (not an option from IP Eng, but was from PPS). Fitting the gas burner meant the IP Eng regulator would foul the gas tank so I agree a longer shaft regulator has been fitted. However as I found out when I fitted a gas burner to my IP Jane the IP Eng & PPS regulators use a different thread on their shaft's so you would need to change the complete regulator housing (I extended my regulator shaft by splicing a piece of steel in and soldering it up with brass tubing).

It is also interesting to see how the pressure gauge has been fitted by using a banjo bolt fitting on the safety valve - the boiler fitted to this early version of the Jane did not have a removal plug on the top of the sight glass fitting like later versions.

Chris Cairns.

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:52 pm

Chris Cairns:90932 wrote:I could not find the eBay IP Jane you have been discussing last night, but that is because the listing was ended early by the seller.

It is my understanding, which David Hippey could confirm, that these flared and rivet detailed smokebox's were originally cast for the Brandbright Jane, which of course was made by IP Engineering before they then sold them direct.

The eBay IP Jane had several options fitted. A brass dome, the optional cab assembly (these were supplied painted by IP Eng, but un-painted by PPS & now RWM, which may explain the difference in colour shade), and a gas burner (not an option from IP Eng, but was from PPS). Fitting the gas burner meant the IP Eng regulator would foul the gas tank so I agree a longer shaft regulator has been fitted. However as I found out when I fitted a gas burner to my IP Jane the IP Eng & PPS regulators use a different thread on their shaft's so you would need to change the complete regulator housing (I extended my regulator shaft by splicing a piece of steel in and soldering it up with brass tubing).

It is also interesting to see how the pressure gauge has been fitted by using a banjo bolt fitting on the safety valve - the boiler fitted to this early version of the Jane did not have a removal plug on the top of the sight glass fitting like later versions.

Chris Cairns.

He always ends his listings early I assume to avoid some of the eBay fees
It'll be back up soon enough

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:31 pm

I'm not looking to buy another one (have 2 already plus a composite Jane/Janet on long term rebuild) but interested to see what price it makes.

Chris Cairns.

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