weighing down locomotives
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Joe
weighing down locomotives
Hi , I'm at the moment considering adding weights to my locomotives although I'm not sure if this will actually increase there capabilities up gradients , with my roundhouse Bertie , she can fly round on the level but up gradients has a tendency to wheels slip without to much behind her, some occasions I'm sure the track is a bit slippy but I was thinking as a Bertie and simillar locos are fairly light would adding a bit of weight make a difference?
Cheers Joe
Cheers Joe
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Joe
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IrishPeter
Essentially 'wot Brian said...'
If you are having adhesion problems, the first suspect has to be muck and oil on the track - most specifically, the rail head. Clean off with an old rag, or a piece of really nasty shag carpet wrapped around a block. Only if that does not work, consider adding lead at the front end of your Bertie to overcome its backend heavy weight distribution.
What sort of gradients do you have, BTW? My 15mm scale Glenagalt is has a stretch of 1 in 24 which taxes 'Millie' somewhat, but she still manages 4 carriages (bogie) or 7 to 9 four wagons without complaint. Most non-Roundhouse forms of motive power baulk at the final pull of 1 in 24.
Peter in AZ
If you are having adhesion problems, the first suspect has to be muck and oil on the track - most specifically, the rail head. Clean off with an old rag, or a piece of really nasty shag carpet wrapped around a block. Only if that does not work, consider adding lead at the front end of your Bertie to overcome its backend heavy weight distribution.
What sort of gradients do you have, BTW? My 15mm scale Glenagalt is has a stretch of 1 in 24 which taxes 'Millie' somewhat, but she still manages 4 carriages (bogie) or 7 to 9 four wagons without complaint. Most non-Roundhouse forms of motive power baulk at the final pull of 1 in 24.
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When adding weight surely it must be installed within the wheelbase of the main carrying wheels to be most effective. If it's outside the wheelbase it will tend to unload the wheels at the opposite end from the weight, cantilevering about the nearest wheels, much like a see saw. That must limit the options somewhat on a good many locos.
The comments regarding railhead condition have to be a great starting point to any problem of his nature. To do otherwise (rushing straight for the box of weights), is akin to shelling nuts with a keying hammer!
The comments regarding railhead condition have to be a great starting point to any problem of his nature. To do otherwise (rushing straight for the box of weights), is akin to shelling nuts with a keying hammer!
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Re: weighing down locomotives
If you have a gradient and train combination that is steep enough to make it slip, how do you control it when going down the gradient?Joe:112569 wrote:... but up gradients has a tendency to wheels slip without too much behind her ...
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Someone that doesn't really know what they are doing can easily screw up the valve timing on a basic series Roundhouse loco, by removing the screw connecting the valve spindle to the eccentric rod and then rotating the valve spindle. Which is how the valve travel is centred on all RH locos.DLRdan:112644 wrote:No it can't, not unless you want to take the wheels off !
On the simplified Walschaerts locos, adjusting the return crank just gives them an additional way to screw up the timing.
Anyway, valve timing won't just affect performance on a grade, if the timing is off, the loco will run badly on the flat as well.
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That was what I was thinking about - it IS possible to cock things up big time by doing that!GTB:112652 wrote:Someone that doesn't really know what they are doing can easily screw up the valve timing on a basic series Roundhouse loco, by removing the screw connecting the valve spindle to the eccentric rod and then rotating the valve spindle. Which is how the valve travel is centred on all RH locos.
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