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Three departments of the LNR have been quite busy this last week. S&T of course have been getting on with the installation of the signal operating equipment.
WARNING! Signal purists should not read on.
Repeating a previous statement "that I don't know a lot about signals" and in trying to learn a little about them, I've come to realise that what I should have, and what is practical on my railway are two different things. So, the home signal has ended up down by the footbridge as a "home departure signal" and the dwarf signal is on No. 3 road, which is used as a run around loop, and for shunting into siding "B". No. 2 road remains un-decided.

The gangers have been busy preparing the "ground" for an extension to siding "B" which previously ended at the footbridge. The new baulk and fresh green ground can be seen just past the last wagon, with the old "ground" loaded onto the flat wagons for transport up to Nayook. Siding "B" can now hold 6 bogie wagons. Lastly the Supply Dept. are measuring up for the inside of the signal box to be fitted out. All of this has been accompanied with steam passenger and mixed goods train running. A busy but satisfying week.
Grant.
PS it is fun pulling off the signals!
WARNING! Signal purists should not read on.
Repeating a previous statement "that I don't know a lot about signals" and in trying to learn a little about them, I've come to realise that what I should have, and what is practical on my railway are two different things. So, the home signal has ended up down by the footbridge as a "home departure signal" and the dwarf signal is on No. 3 road, which is used as a run around loop, and for shunting into siding "B". No. 2 road remains un-decided.
The gangers have been busy preparing the "ground" for an extension to siding "B" which previously ended at the footbridge. The new baulk and fresh green ground can be seen just past the last wagon, with the old "ground" loaded onto the flat wagons for transport up to Nayook. Siding "B" can now hold 6 bogie wagons. Lastly the Supply Dept. are measuring up for the inside of the signal box to be fitted out. All of this has been accompanied with steam passenger and mixed goods train running. A busy but satisfying week.
Grant.
PS it is fun pulling off the signals!
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The signalling looks like a good arrangement to me Grant. With independent railways we have a lot of options within some very broad principles.
I love that the railway is being used to transport construction materials!
Andrew
I love that the railway is being used to transport construction materials!
Andrew
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IrishPeter
Australia also had some interesting things going on in terms of signalling, even though much of what was installed was according to the Gospel of MacKenzie and Holland.
The most interesting one from my point of view was the use of remote ground frames that were released by Annett Keys from the main signal frame. This saved a small fortune in 1" iron gas pipe (point rodding.) I have also seen similar set-ups used in India, especially on the NG (2'6") sections. I rather like them as they are a nice economical way of operating a spread out track layout.
One thing I notice about the 2'6" gauge in India is that the signalling arrangements are usually pretty minimal. Home signal, starter, and releases for the ground frames at either end. This usually means 6 or 7 levers in the box as opposed to 14 or 15.
Peter in AZ
The most interesting one from my point of view was the use of remote ground frames that were released by Annett Keys from the main signal frame. This saved a small fortune in 1" iron gas pipe (point rodding.) I have also seen similar set-ups used in India, especially on the NG (2'6") sections. I rather like them as they are a nice economical way of operating a spread out track layout.
One thing I notice about the 2'6" gauge in India is that the signalling arrangements are usually pretty minimal. Home signal, starter, and releases for the ground frames at either end. This usually means 6 or 7 levers in the box as opposed to 14 or 15.
Peter in AZ
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Thanks go to Andrew for sowing the seed. The cold and wet weather have kept me in the workshop making items for the Signal Box.

There are others, the shelf above the levers with the indicators on it, flags and collars, and a desk with the train order book, but they are already in place and will appear in the finished pics. when weather permits.
Grant.
There are others, the shelf above the levers with the indicators on it, flags and collars, and a desk with the train order book, but they are already in place and will appear in the finished pics. when weather permits.
Grant.
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Well Peter your right about the spiders, and there's no way to stop them because of the opening under the platform for the rodding and signal wires. Thought about putting some mothballs in there. Can spiders smell?
Invicta your right about the table, it should be a turned leg sort of old school type table, for the period. Shall have to replace it.
Philip, aren't we all a little crazy.
Grant.
Invicta your right about the table, it should be a turned leg sort of old school type table, for the period. Shall have to replace it.
Philip, aren't we all a little crazy.
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Although spiders have no nose they are aware of 'smell' through direct contact with receptors on their legs. There are certain smells which might not be acceptable to spiders but they would need to be there to find out.LNR:119119 wrote: Can spiders smell?
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Grant,LNR:119119 wrote: and there's no way to stop them because of the opening under the platform for the rodding and signal wires.
I have, potentially, the same issue. My solution is that I have some black draught insulation strip, 10mm x 5mm and self adhesive on one side. I've cut a piece to go under the rodding inside the box, spanning the width of the opening and cut simple slots into the foam so that effectively it wipes the rods where they go through it.
Whether it will stop the little bugs and grubs only time will tell, but I'm also hoping that it will cut down water ingresss when it rains.
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Thanks Jim, and thank you all for spider suggestions. It is very oily under there (very black diesel oil) and I shall keep it that way and see if that works.
Made a "more correct for the period" table today. Doily under teapot supplied by my wife.

Grant.
PS not sure doily will make it to the signal box!!!
Made a "more correct for the period" table today. Doily under teapot supplied by my wife.
Grant.
PS not sure doily will make it to the signal box!!!
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Grant,
That's absolutely fantastic. Every detail is just right for the majority of the signal boxes who's doors I have darkened (and therte are quite a few of those!)
I could just imagine sitting down at that table to enjoy a sandwich washed down with a cup of fresh tea.
Andrew
That's absolutely fantastic. Every detail is just right for the majority of the signal boxes who's doors I have darkened (and therte are quite a few of those!)
I could just imagine sitting down at that table to enjoy a sandwich washed down with a cup of fresh tea.
Andrew
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