Old Loco Brought Back to Life

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Post by dougrail » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:52 pm

As some of you may also know, I have a locomotive that is long term 'work in progress' - its progress can be chartered over at the Mamod Forums [and here I think?]. However, my workshop also nursed back to steaming health a second steam engine...and here is it's story.

The quest began back in March when I won this tired locomotive on Ebay for a song. The photos tell the story in its own right.

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As can be seen, the loco was a custom and unique jobbie. Several details came to light – like the maker’s plates, the elegant funnel and other fittings such as the use of a Mamod van back for the cab:

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On close inspection a sorry tale of woe presented itself to me. The wheels were somewhat stiff [though the cylinders weren’t], there was hair, muck, grime and a thick layer of dust everywhere. Worst yet, the paint was very poor – scratching off at a fingernail and in turn, it was rusted on the tanks, cab parts, frames – there were patches of rust just about everywhere underneath!

A happy exchange between the former owner and I followed, as I asked for a full loco history, curious about its new ‘bodywork’ and origins.

t hasn't got an exciting history. When I was active in 16mm there was a craze for converting Mamods into more and more unlikely locomotives at the expense of the Mamod's already limited running capabilities. This was an attempt to buck the trend.

Under instruction from Derek Goodall (loco builder and, at that time, after sales engineer to Aster) I removed the cylinders and throttle valve and smoothed all mating surfaces on a surface plate (and if I recall correctly gave an element of 'lead' to the throttle valve). The pistons were also 'lapped' in the ctlinders to ensure no rough spots...

The loco ran like a dream. The 'lead' makes the throttle valve sesitive but very resposive and the loco would crawl in a way well below the stall speed of any other Mamods I had seen.

There were two problems, the loco was such a free steamed that the safety valve was blowing almost continuously, so I capped the centre burner, which did not effect running but saved wasting so much steam and heat. The second is that the filler valve is directly over a burner wick, so if you spill water on the wick you have reduced availble hear by half - moral do the initial filling with the burner removed from the loco. Once in steam this is not a problem as any 'dribble' is turned to steam before it can run down the boiler.

After giving it this build up I must say it probably need some TLC to return to that condition.

Cosmetically, the Mamod tanks were moved forward and re-rivited, The back sheet came from a Mamod brake van as did the cut down roof. Tool box and tank fillers were commercial castings. The safety valve cover was a bit of turning and brass tubing - it may well take to a good polish to restore the glint of brass.

The whole thing was sprayed with Motor Cycle exhaust paint to withstand the heat and was fitted with my (then standard) works plate.

For a period of around 5 years it went to all 16mm open days I attended to show Mamods could be made to run properly without the major and costly add-ons that were being offered at the time. I then moved house, the garden railway never got relaid, and now, some 15 years later I have to accept I will not be relaying it!


Fifteen years of storage indeed had worn down upon this little engine. :(

The day I received it, I promptly dismantled it into its component parts, ensuring all the trims, nuts, bolts, clips etc were all kept in a tub clearly marked so as to avoid the ‘other’ locomotive’s bits and pieces.

At this point, I must explain my motive in buying it. Having received much theory but little practical on loco/live steam restoration or treatment, this cheap engine could serve with little price of failure as a practice run for the long termer – of which an updated report will be on its own thread. But for now, we must focus on Deep Thought. In short, it would be a trial run before I restarted my longterm loco.

I had stripped the engine down and began stripping the paint.
Initially a blowtorch was used. However, this is a time consuming pastime as firstly one must ensure they don’t harm the metal with the flame, secondly, that they don’t BAKE the ‘paint mess’ ONTO the part, defeating the objective and thirdly – often, a disgusting, metallic burning, sickly sweet smell [vapour?] would arise from this. It did make me somewhat ill so an alternative was sought.

Behold – “BIOSTRIP”. As once sold by Thermacure, but now exclusively from Biostrip themselves [www.biostrip.co.uk] this stuff is magnificent! Throw away your Nitromors, dispense with your blowtorches, and wash yourself of safety gloves – this stuff is the future. :)
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And a demonstration elsewhere:
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Eventually, with a paint scraper, the bodywork and frames were brought back to bare metal. They then spent 24-36 hours inside a ‘Rust Remover’ dip which by God worked. They were sanded down with four grades of sandpaper to reveal this:
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They were then sprayed and thoroughly wiped over with this stuff:
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Painting – I Definitely absolutely hate painting! Believe it or not, it took several weeks for this to occur and finish. Reasons were that 1)Time. I wasn’t painting, scraping and prepping every day as sometimes it became an irksome chore. So I would leave it.
Secondly, I needed good conditions as I prefer to spraypaint outside – but on a dry, windless day. This spring was pretty wet and so days that were perfect were snatched. Some days could see five or six pieces painted, others only a couple. Painting came in stages:

Two to three layers of Plastikote Super [White]Primer. A layer sprayed on, ‘mist style’ every hour or so to allow for best application. Sometimes paint could be applied the same day but other times would be applied the following session.
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Plastikote I had the complete ‘system’ and so followed its instructions thoroughly. You can respray in under 4 hours or after 36 hours of initial application. Do not deviate from this. The result is the famous bubbling and lumpiness that has been many a painter’s bane.
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Over the next few weeks, the tanks were repainted twice; due to bubbles, drips and overpainting causing ripples. The sides were repainted once as they were touched by a delinquent parent unit [!!!!]. But luckily these could be stripped, prepped and repainted in under a day -a record for me!
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The frames, wheels and cab roof were painted in VHT paint. For VHT, a lot of people recommend Halfords own Black VHT. I frankly abhor this as its finish is matt, and isn’t a true black -it’s a charcoal grey at best, a muddy grey at worst. It does the job, I will admit happily but for something more...black, sleek and eyecatching I recommend what I have used on the wheels, frames, cab roof and also on my other loco: Thermacure’s Satin Black Stove Paint. Good for upto 650C and produces a grand finish. :)

Finally, we had the curing. Many of you will know that I have had quite the difficulty with this aspect, not having access to curing facilities as such. Back in mid April I scoured Ebay and came across this:

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AN ELECTRIC TOASTER OVEN. :D

For £15, I bought it. And it worked! I used the engine’s parts – combichamber, wheels, frames, roof and finally, the boiler, as again, the guinea pig of my endeavours. This paved the way for my other engine immensely...

Finally, the paint settled and the VHT paint was cured. Now I was in early June. I had begun to reassemble the loco, mechanically-wise but needed to finish the lining out.
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Dryingwise, I used our warm kitchen and hung the pieces off the washing rack. These could sit for two-three days, depending on weather, mood or if I was busy. The transformation is readily apparent.
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One difficulty was trying to paint the cab: outside in red, but inside as true locomotives do – in cream. This too was Plastikote Super; ‘Ice Cream’ shade to be precise.
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Now once dry and ready to handle...time to harden the paint. This is a precise process- the pieces go inside a cool oven, and bake slowly as the oven warms up to a ‘medium’ temperature. The pieces remain no longer than THREE MINUTES – or the paint will bubble, burst and spoil. I literally timed this to within seconds to prevent going over the edge and ruining another attempt. Which did happen once, hence one reason [again] I had to start over on some pieces. :/

But once these were passed...and the pieces were Ready...and all was dry and good...it was time to line out. I used Trimline tape, a set square and a triangle protractor to aim for a good, square [almost!!] finish. One side was done first – the other was a vast improvement, having learnt from the first side a lot.
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The lining was then covered in three layers of Plastikote’s “Clear Super” protective varnish. Believe it or not, this also caused a repaint job on a tankpiece when it overcooked!! >(

Painful, but I have learnt a lot from it. But once all the pieces were varnished...we had a finished bodywork set.

Time to reassemble and steam the loco. Now we are talking maximum two weeks ago. Unfortunatly the boiler decided only then to unveil a nasty surprise...

Backheads suck.
Screwed the plate onto the back of the boiler and somehow, the screws broke. Both of them. Inside the threadhole. :@:@:@ Much profanity ensued until I was able to try and drill the brass screws out...

The screws went flying, the brass was belted out but the drill was shifted off centre. Thats right, something harder than steel had got into the boiler. Do not ask. Don’t ask at all. And yes, more profanity ensued. This engine has fought me every step of the d**n way, from dismantling to steaming.

Luckily...I had got a spare. And the same day, the new high-pressure valve from the ‘Dinorwic Light Railway’ arrived. :D A boiler transplant later and a fight with aligning the body to allow the number and works-plates to be refixed using their original 12BA screws and hold the body together later....
...and behold, was the engine finished.
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Post by dougrail » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:58 pm

But Could it Steam?

The restoration was finished last Wednesday – I believe it was 29th June. After 24 hours to settle, I took it into the garden to steam on blocks, minus the cylinder covers.

Strike One.
It leaked steam everywhere. Reverser, dome, and out the corner of the cylinders.  This went back to the workshops as a result where I lapped the cylinder faces, the ports, replaced the gaskets from the hoarde of ‘superior’ PPS Janet makes, and lapped the faces of the reverser block too. Thus a second try...

Strike Two
It still leaked from the front. Less steam was pouring out and the safety valve lifted. A small leak was notable in the boiler backhead...but given the fight I had had to assemble the body, I simply could not be arsed with lifting it all off..again. The safety valve was lifting, so I considered this a minor. This time, I replaced the reverser with a spare...

Strike Three
Less leakage and a twitch of the wheels. However, there was still some water leaking, apparently from round the cylinders. I thus had a spare pair of [improved] cylinders. More surgery ensued, as I also checked the steampipe – ran it under some cold water. It channelled the water, and so wasn’t blocked.

Strike Four
Nothing. It steamed but didn’t raise enough steam, leaking water and steam from the bottom of the front. What was making this engine still sick? This was at the point, after 4 hrs of spontaneous surgery where I was beginning to lose faith. It was a disappointing day indeed, and for my first ‘quickie’ a somewhat disillusioning exercise. I’d lapped the ports, checked the pipes, valves, boiler and soforth.... and so I left it.

The next day was Thursday and off to Wales  -Tywyn, specifically. I took the loco with me in the hope of getting it fixed and maybe even selling it off. Thursday night saw me dismantle the frames, and checking that the frame was rolling. It rolled freely, so it wasn’t “binding” per se. However it DID bind somewhat when it all heated up....as I discovered later that weekend.


Friday Night – An Improvement
Enter the hearty Llechfan Garden Railway gang and in particular, the head of S&T aka “The Mamod Doctor” – rumour has it that if he cleared out his house he could rival MSS’s production for a year! ;D

The Dome was checked – I was able to follow up on the advice I had enquired about for the dome. It turned out that the spring and the o’ring were in wrong...and that I was missing a metal washer. No wonder hot water was getting through to the motion!! This was rectified quickly...

We sat down and looked at the loco. Some tinkering later and a lubrication all over saw some action – suddenly it burst into life and roared backwards in true Mamod Rocket style :D
Revelation? Redemption? Alas not...for in forward it leaked. STILL.

This [at the time un-named] wretched engine was determined to fight and make life hard every. Single. Step. Of the way. :(

Saturday – Have A Go Gala!
Saturday saw me working in Pendre Loco shed until 2pm. From there I got back to Wharf, washed up and took the beastie down to the Railway, along with the full Dougstar Works toolkit and spare parts box, to commence the delicate surgery needed...

Cylinders were loosened a little and the rolling chassis checked over. Still ran freely. But the loco wasn’t steaming....this was odd. The safety valve wasn’t rising. This was becoming more and more perplexing. Saturday ended on a low note as even the steampipe was swapped out and checked. It was somewhat depressing to see all the lovely ‘big boy’ locos running about and taking the line while ‘Red’ was either in pieces or making a show and an embarrassment of itself and I. :/
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Sunday
Sunday morning saw me off roster – and so I was down at the Railway for 10am sharp. It was quiet, and so a few people came over to come and examine the progress of the loco’s operation. At this point I was re-lapping a reverser block [its original] with a fine sandpaper and followed by an application of Brasso. It also transpired that the centre spring on the block was not tight enough.

I learnt this day that the reverser block also acts as a safety valve. No wonder it was letting off steam!

Most of the morning was spent on the reverser to go back in – open the reverser, take off the roundel with the handle on and you see the ‘kidney bean shaped hollows. On one side, they were wide and rounded – no wonder it was steaming in reverse. The opposite side saw them finish at an uneven, parallel straight line not wide enough. This explained why steam wasn’t coming through...!
Most of the morning was spent filing this open to create more space – when I wasn’t either minding other people’s engines, making sure children’s ”Ffion” and other AnDel  shunters were okay or running my own acquisition...an I P Engineering Jessie with speed control, detailing and blue livery – “Highlander”.

With the cylinders oiled, screws loosened, and the reverser block now relapped and ready they were swapped over. The engine was placed on blocks at the terminus spur of the Llechfan-Compton Down railway – “Llanbedr Road”. Unfortunatly now the engine was exposed to one and all and so it was the Moment of Truth....

Splish, splash, crack..

Sad to say, the loco thoroughly embarrassed itself infront of everyone. Now it decided to bubble and leak water quite massively from the boiler backhead  and the reverser block as well as shoot water up the chimney. The frustration was becoming palpable...


This was about 2-3pm on the afternoon and the despondancy was sinking in fast...so for a while, we sat back and just watched the ever-exemplary Sir Compton strut its stuff while we pondered over the red devil’s problems.

Team time again. The 'Mamod Doc' sprang back into action and for this last 5% of the restoration, it became a team effort as frankly, it was a puzzling quandry indeed...!

Work started again. Firstly we made sure the meths burner was not airblocked and then we replaced the wicks with some good old-fashioned stuff – which made a hell of a difference in heating. Secondly the backhead was given its quietus – unscrewed, a replacement test rubber ring placed in and rescrewed gently tight – though not overly tight to distort anything. And finally, the reverser blocks were swapped over and put in place was the dear that I had been working on for the entirety of the morning!

Steam was raised quietly...and surely...and suddenly, the wheels became a gigantic blur! Quickly flicked from reverser to forward to back to forward....and bang! The loco was in working order, brought to life! Placed on the tracks, it smashed its way out of the Llanbedr Road spur and onto the mainline – giving an oncoming  loco a ‘bump!’ :D

Needless to say, the engine was intact. It’s strong stuff from the ‘80s when stuff was built to last ;)

By now it was 5:30pm on that lovely sunny afternoon. Highlander was run in too, until final preparation [and more meths was sourced!]

At 6:15, the engine was placed on the main road at the Llechfan-Compton through station...

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...and at 6:24pm, it burst into life and did half a lap of the Upper Circuit. The engine was finished, steaming and working at Long Last. On this ‘official steaming’, names were considered.

I Name This Engine...
When purchased, the working title “Under Pressure” had been considered. Then looking at its rough, hardy style considered the moniker of ‘Captain Baxter’. As the livery was applied, the ‘galactic’ theme as on other locos was considered – Nova, and Great Star. Given the state that the engine had started its new life in, it was somewhat a dog of an engine...and so the Dog Star was an option. The loco was to be named Sirius. Until the Friday...

Recently I had come across and began reading the infamous Douglas Adams’ Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy again...

In the end, there could only be one name, that suited both its rebirth and its raison ‘etre....

DEEP THOUGHT.

One – the amount of concentration and indeed, ‘deep thinking’ that had gone into its restoration, from initial stripdown to final testing and eventually steaming.

Two – after the fictional supercomputer featured in the HHGTTG trilogy. Followers will note that “Deep Thought” was built to be the best and of the highest standard in order to Answer the Question. It DID Answer The Question. And then declaimed that “I speak of none but the computer that is to come after me...A computer whose merest operational parameters I am not worthy to calculate – and yet I will design it for you...a computer of such infinite and subtle complexity...Yes!”

In this case,  “Deep Thought” answered the question: is Douglas capable of a restoration and of joining the worthies of the Mamod Forums? It is done. Deep Thought also precludes the finishing of another locomotive – a locomotive that will far outstrip Deep Thought in capability, ease of use, power, control and sophistication,[theoretically]. It was bought and restored as a ‘trial run’, a cheap ‘first time’, a gambleless ‘can I do this’ without sacrificing any aspect of the Other. And so it has been done. ‘The Other’, of course is the Mamod-PPS Janet-Alan Briggs-Dream Steam hybrid formerly known as Gorun Nova.

Wait, formerly known?

Well. Having remembered that ‘Gorun Nova’ as well as being a demon-slaying ‘light sword’, it was also the name of a fictional spacecraft that sucked the minds and souls out of its pilot to fuel itself – a name from the darkness too as well as being obscure beyond comprehension, I decided to rename and finalise the Long Term loco.

What will that be? Stay tuned. But for now, please, enjoy Deep Thought’s second coming – photos taken after it was cooled down and sent over Tywyn Wharf. :)
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At the Buffers – At the Edge of the World
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Train Now Departing Tywyn Wharf for...the Mamod Forums!
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Does he even know what’s going on...?
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Basking In The Sun
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Post by Sir Clothem Cap » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:39 am

Wow a fantastic restoration and great accoubt of the mechanical problems. Well done for keeping it to its simple roots.

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Post by dougrail » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:42 pm

Sir Clothem Cap:55863 wrote:Wow a fantastic restoration and great accoubt of the mechanical problems. Well done for keeping it to its simple roots.
Thanks chap :)

The simple roots thing was more economy based. It does have upgrades like safety valve and super cylinders for power, but no regulator or superboiler. Deep Thought is afterall a 'test run' loco.

The simple roots were thrown out on the other loco...;)

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Post by Pendo Pilot » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:27 pm

Shame about all the problems, but have to say that is a good looking mamod indeed. Moving the cab forward really suits the loco. Glad to see it's now running as it should. By the way, is there a reason you have the cylinder covers mounted on top of the frame? ;)

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Post by dougrail » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:32 pm

PP - Yes. That's because I lack the adhesive tape required to get them on properly ;) I'm of the impression I need a special two-sided, heat resistant tape?

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Post by bessytractor » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:35 pm

dougrail:56650 wrote:PP  - Yes. That's because I lack the adhesive tape required to get them on properly ;) I'm of the impression I need a special two-sided, heat resistant tape?
tape? Ugh, a nut and bolt would be better. I doubt the tape would last long in those conditions (hot, oily!).
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Post by dougrail » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:51 am

Might go a-drilling actually, now you mention it, BT...

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Post by anythingsdr » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:03 pm

When yoiu baked the paint, what sort of temperature did you have the oven at? Seams a very good idea!

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Post by Marquis DeCarabas » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:20 pm

anythingsdr:56691 wrote:When yoiu baked the paint, what sort of temperature did you have the oven at? Seams a very good idea!
Last time I baked any paint on my engines was using the belling in Pendre messroom and that was gently brought up to about 220 degrees at about 15 degrees up every 5 minutes.

Bake for a bit at full chat and then turn off the oven, let it all cool naturally, as even stove enamelled paint will mark when warm.

When cool, remove and serve - in this case it went down to the other end of the yard into the Paintshop to join the rest of the engine.

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Post by dougrail » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:45 pm

I hate to say this...but the VHT curing? I have no idea of curing temp. As the eleccy oven has no temp control - just four settings - off, top half only, bottom half only, full power.

My trick is 20mins at half power, then 30 mins at full power. Then cool and fire up at full power from scratch, left for 45 mins.

It depends on the paint mind. The VHT black I use isn't the "usual" car paint - it's Thermacure Satin Black VHT Stove paint.

However, I used Halfords car paint VHT. It came out okay on the same try but the finish is nowhere near as good...as the paint is inferior. I may respray the boiler somepoint.

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Post by tegfan railway » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:02 am

Jobs a good un!

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Post by kes » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:51 pm

Just found this thread Doug... excellent... love the photos.

There is a wonderful coincidence with this loco - which is an amazing thread that ties it spiritually to Llechfan - and doesn't quite use up all 6 degrees of separation that is supposed to bind us all together.......

Whilst Doug was sitting in Llechfan garden making his noble repairs in an effort to achieve movement as well as steam, I happened to notice the works plate, Redberth Works, Narberth. This proved familiar and was the mark of one of Dad's 16mmilling friends waaaay back when.

Sure enough, it was the same friend who had sold it to Doug via ebay - I have probably been to the garden railway it had last run on and even worked with the gent in question many moons ago before he moved and the railway ceased to be. You never know - I may have even seen it run in its former life!

Just goes to show we live in small worlds as well as modelling them...

Lovely to see it go at Llechfan - look forward hugely to its return.

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Post by dougrail » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:10 pm

Well, she's back in pieces as I needed to work some more on the reverser. I also swapped out for a meths burner with a larger tank and got a bung for it to prevent a cab fire.

I've had to repaint the seperate floor plates in VHT paint [black] for part, effect and part because it too got caught in the cabfire. Also need to reline part of the tanks.

When I get out the life rut, it'll come back together. Might need a drill or some doubel sided carpet tape for the cylinder covers.

I also take it that as it has a connection with CDR it thus has a preservation order placed on it? :lol:

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Post by dougrail » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:28 pm

THE FINISHING LINE

Time for an update here - people have asked to see the engine working, in steam. Unfortunately this has been a somewhat rare occurance...

August - Steam Trials after the rebuild and repaint - successful

August -first 3 days of summer holiday - steaming, but shy. Binding noted on the wheel revolutions. Chassis lifted and dismantled to sort this out.

Holiday - last 4 days, post-Op - poor. Leaking steam and water. Very reluctant to turn a wheel in anger thought notably did a few solitary times.

In September and October, the engine was left well alone, cold and unattended as the Works had sped up work to the point of successful steaming on the No.1 - the Swordbreaker.

However it was kept clean and tidy for the edification of visitors - quite a few people at Butterley noted that it was a lovely 'bright' engine.

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I took it Butterley as part of my STWWW entry and hoped that perhaps after a month or so at rest things might have 'settled in' and that it would permit to steam - sadly this was in vain and it was the one engine that refused to budge.


Afterwards, it was decided to throw a last-chance investigation into the engine from top to bottom.

I knew that the boiler was water tight, especially as this had been checked over by Dr. Thorpe
at the Llechfan Railway. I had already ensured that the steam dome had the right o rings/washers and all in the right positions.

I also knew that the fire was a-okay - the meths burner that came with it was able to be supported properly within it at long last as opposed to the spare modern design spirit burner that it had ran with uptil October - thanks to a donation of a meths burner holder/spacer to sit between the frames from another loco.

The wheels had already been swapped once from my scrapyard and this set were proven.

The safety valve was modified to lift properly - and had been built by the esteemed Foreman of the Dinorwic Light Railway -Dan. And had steamed okay on a test loco bought in good condition - Phantom.

Trial by deducution, some might say. This determined then, that the problems which marred otherwise a 'hidden if capably good' loco [Kes] was the steam chest.

Reverser block, and cylinders. The reverser block was ruled out as it had had a great deal of work done on it, including evening out the steam cavity, creating a seal, pipework fititng into it and so forth. But let nothing be taken for granted...

As a result in early November, an appeal for spare parts was put out. Any cylinders and reverser blocks on loan muchly appreciated.

A week later, a shipment arrived by truck from no less than the Woodrow Light Railway - the Managing Director [aka Pauly :lol:] had managed to salvage the suspect steamchest from a locomotive sat in the local scrapyard. One loco's demise becomes another's salvation I guess.

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Cheers Pauly! With this set of equipment, I therefore had a duplicate steamchest - a 'control' set if you will.

The first thing I did was fit all of Pauly's equipment to Deep Thought - and work it. And work it did


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Confirming that I had a 'control' ready for my tests and doing Pauly a favour - confirming that they still worked it was time to press on :lol:

So we had two statuses: DTO parts - no running, WLR parts, running.

Thus we had six [ten] items :-

WLR - Reverser, 2 x cylinder-piston, 2 x port places
DTO - Reverser, 2 x cylinder-piston [suspect], 2 x port plates[suspect]

The first configuration after the 'Control' was the DTO Reverser with the WLR Cylinders & port plates....

Successful. Water, hot water in places but at least it turned more wheels than it had before the spares had arrived.

The next configuration was to dissemble the cylinders as per the photo and divide the cylinder-blocks form the port plates, as I now had suspicions that these had become worn or had been poorly machined before and had merely been hanging on...


DTO Reverser - DTO Cylinders - WLR port plates...

It worked.

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NEXT STEPS

The culprits were quickly identified - the port places, as illustrated here. I suspect that the steam holes were not machined correctly.

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Regardless, new port plates [seperate from whole cylinder blocks] were ordered from the lovely chaps at Dream Steam and were picked up from the Post Office yesterday. They were fitted to the DTO cylinders [with the piston upgrades ;)] and Deep Thought's original larger-meths tank burner restored to it. It was steamed up with quite the degree of success.

Now, since I completed the project in the summer, some of you have requested videos of the engine working. Now that I have a qualified engine and I know it will work, having near every part of it overhauled, tuned or replaced, may I present to you a couple of videos shot tonight ;)

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And an encore...


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:D


I hope that finally this marks the end of the Deep Thought saga - from rusting wreck to steaming wonder!

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Post by Hancockshire » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:53 am

Looks awesome, even if it's another Mamod in bright red. Meh. I need to repaint the wheels on Agnus, varnish them so give better protection against the heat, steam & rods. It would be nice if we had some kind of Mamod day hehe

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Post by dougrail » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:51 pm

Cheers Hancock :) Deep Thought will remain unique mind ;)

We should do a Mamod owners get together someday shouldn't we..? :D

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Post by DolwyddelanLightRail » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:51 pm

Sounds like a plan! But how many of them will be operational will be a different matter..... :lol:

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Post by DolwyddelanLightRail » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:58 pm

DolwyddelanLightRail:63314 wrote:Sounds like a plan! But how many of them will be operational will be a different matter..... :lol:

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Post by dougrail » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:55 pm

DolwyddelanLightRail:63314 wrote:Sounds like a plan! But how many of them will be operational will be a different matter..... :lol:
Well, both of mine will be - Swordbreaker's in final tests after a small steam leak noted in the regulator; might need to see Mr. PPS about a new o ring for there and Deep Thought is running like a charm now!

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