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Post by andysleigh » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:06 pm

i dont knwo if any of you have noticed,
but the price of locos seem to be going up.

roundhouse are now charging about £50 more for their basic series

and pps are now asking £427 for a basic edrig,
that more than i paid with postage and insurence.

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Post by andysleigh » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:06 pm

its quite anoying.
thats why i am setting out on building a 7 1/4 bagnall now before it gets to expensive,

in 2001, a boiler for the loco was £500, and now its just over £2000

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Post by ptlrcecil » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:34 pm

It'll just be the goverment taxing a lot of the stuff now which wont help as well as the increase in price for the raw parts.
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Post by Matt » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:12 pm

Yeah. Maybe it's due to that scare on the stock market earlier this year.
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Post by mhlr » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:28 pm

uhhhhh bloody tax... :(
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Post by Spule 4 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:00 pm

Metal prices do have a lot to do with this, just check the futures in the paper and it is of concern.

For Accucraft, the factor of the recent (last two months) changes in the Chinese economy are a part too, material, labor and energy costs have all jumped 30-100% so far this year and many factories have been shut do to not being competitive anymore. There are also concerns about food supplies due to their abnornally severe winter weather. The days of "made in China" = "price break" may be over!
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Post by laalratty » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:52 pm

I heard that china may be becoming too expensive and that it was now just begining to look borderline as to whether it would work out cheaper to manufacture in Britain, because of better quality and much lower transport costs. As to what is being manufactured....
Whatever, I got my Millie at £420, 2 months before a price rise 8)

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Post by Spule 4 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:22 pm

laalratty wrote:I heard that china may be becoming too expensive and that it was now just begining to look borderline as to whether it would work out cheaper to manufacture in Britain, because of better quality and much lower transport costs. As to what is being manufactured....
Whatever, I got my Millie at £420, 2 months before a price rise 8)
Maybe it will all come here Stateside, but while the GBP has made some slight gain to the dollar, the GBP has also slid compared to the Euro just like the dollar. I can remember $0.80 to the Euro at its inception, today it is $1.54 :shock: .
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Post by andysleigh » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:15 pm

i think that britain should open factories,
lower the price of accually living (paying for house, car, gas, food etc)
then we can have british quality, and lower prices

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Post by Spule 4 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:21 pm

andysleigh wrote:i think that britain should open factories,
lower the price of accually living (paying for house, car, gas, food etc)
then we can have british quality, and lower prices
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Post by andysleigh » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:26 pm

Spule 4 wrote:
andysleigh wrote:i think that britain should open factories,
lower the price of accually living (paying for house, car, gas, food etc)
then we can have british quality, and lower prices
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Post by grumpfuttock » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:55 pm

andysleigh wrote:i think that britain should open factories,
lower the price of accually living (paying for house, car, gas, food etc)
then we can have british quality, and lower prices
A nice thought Andy, but somehow I have a sneaking feeling that if that happened, it would also mean lower wages:-(
House prices in the UK horrify me, they are approx 4 times higher than in Denmark.
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Post by andysleigh » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:04 am

grumpfuttock wrote:
andysleigh wrote:i think that britain should open factories,
lower the price of accually living (paying for house, car, gas, food etc)
then we can have british quality, and lower prices
A nice thought Andy, but somehow I have a sneaking feeling that if that happened, it would also mean lower wages:-(
House prices in the UK horrify me, they are approx 4 times higher than in Denmark.
its our damn govenment who want more and more money,
they are pushing their luck with us, charging us more and more on small things.

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Post by Spule 4 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:17 am

andysleigh wrote:
grumpfuttock wrote:
andysleigh wrote:i think that britain should open factories,
lower the price of accually living (paying for house, car, gas, food etc)
then we can have british quality, and lower prices
A nice thought Andy, but somehow I have a sneaking feeling that if that happened, it would also mean lower wages:-(
House prices in the UK horrify me, they are approx 4 times higher than in Denmark.
its our damn govenment who want more and more money,
they are pushing their luck with us, charging us more and more on small things.
So maybe we wern't so nuts with the whole tea thing afterall? ;)
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Post by MuzTrem » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:26 am

grumpfuttock wrote:A nice thought Andy, but somehow I have a sneaking feeling that if that happened, it would also mean lower wages :-(
That's just it. The reason why nothing is made in Britain any more is because British workers expect such high wages. If manufacturing things in Britain is going to become economically viable, then wages in China etc. will have to rise, or British wages will have to come down.

However, as Garrett pointed out wages in China are starting to rise, so we shall have to wait and see.

Also, lowering the cost of living would doubtless require some sort of government intervention in the economy...which personally, I think is to be avoided if at all possible.

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Post by Spule 4 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:08 pm

MuzTrem wrote:
grumpfuttock wrote:A nice thought Andy, but somehow I have a sneaking feeling that if that happened, it would also mean lower wages :-(
That's just it. The reason why nothing is made in Britain any more is because British workers expect such high wages. If manufacturing things in Britain is going to become economically viable, then wages in China etc. will have to rise, or British wages will have to come down.

However, as Garrett pointed out wages in China are starting to rise, so we shall have to wait and see.

Also, lowering the cost of living would doubtless require some sort of government intervention in the economy...which personally, I think is to be avoided if at all possible.
Not the costs of living but our "self imposed" standards of living.  But I think the banks are going to do that for us, atleast in the UK and US from what I have been reading, as the next lending crisis will be the calling and change of terms to credit card debt.

Of course, these "standards of living" were not just brought in by "higher" wages, but when corrected for inflation, cheap import goods and cheap energy, so these may be factors also.
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Post by SillyBilly » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:25 pm

Just aswell I bought 'Isabelle' when I did :) .

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