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Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:26 am
by drewzero1
I came across this demonstration of poling (a shunting method using a pole to propel cars along an adjacent track) and had to share.



I feel like we've talked about poling here before, but couldn't remember where I'd left that discussion. It's also a pretty neat depiction of overhead wire power-- check out other videos on the channel for more of that.

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:45 am
by SKGLB
That's why the parts are also called "pole pockets". Seen here on a detailed Lumber Jack.
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Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:18 am
by Scrat
On the wagon side he is using the ladder (which is bending visibly in the video). Guess the wagon does not have a pole pocket.

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:22 pm
by drewzero1
Yes, I'd always noticed the pole pockets on local stock but only within the last few years did I find out what they were for! Well spotted on the ladder. When the interurban car backs up and the pole drops it appears that that boxcar doesn't have pockets, but the one behind it might. I just thought it was neat that somebody was doing it with HO scale models!

Here's a full-size demonstration as well:
[video]https://youtu.be/o7YK6ePUoIo?si=zY-eUfo7l2tr1TAV[/video]

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 am
by Old Man Aaron
I'dve thought pole shunting in such a small scale would be too fiddly to work. Fastening the pole to the loco though, never thought of that one.
They used to do something similar in the canefields, only pulling, with rope. Dangerous, and I'm told, illegal nowadays.

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:16 am
by Andrew
Old Man Aaron wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 am They used to do something similar in the canefields, only pulling, with rope. Dangerous, and I'm told, illegal nowadays.
I think it was an occasional, but frowned-upon, practice in the UK. I believe using a capstan was more common, with the loco and wagon were heading on opposite directions. I think that was used on the K&ESR to shunt a wagon onto the rear of a mixed train where there was only a facing siding and no loop.

Fascinating film of the pole shunting - I've never heard of that in the UK...

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:28 am
by philipy
I've always known it as Chain Shunting in the Uk.
I found quite an interesting thread on RM Web https://www.rmweb.co.uk/forums/topic/15 ... -shunting/ which amongst other things makes a passing reference to using the technique on the Festiniog, using Little Wonder.... TREVOR!!!! :lol: :lol:

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:17 pm
by dudeface
It was bothering me so I have correctly embedded the video.

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:38 pm
by drewzero1
Thanks Miles... that's what I get for posting before the coffee kicks in! :sleepy1:

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:38 pm
by HugoFitz

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:52 pm
by philipy
HugoFitz wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:38 pm
No idea how to embed!
See our "How to..." section :
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=9208

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:57 pm
by dudeface
HugoFitz wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:38 pm Mini Loco and capstan
https://youtu.be/PP1UA4ZxN6A?si=sO2y9g2HYKeQqQAA

No idea how to embed!
Take off the ?si and everything after and use [video][/video].

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:25 am
by Melbournesparks
drewzero1 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:26 am It's also a pretty neat depiction of overhead wire power-- check out other videos on the channel for more of that.
You can do overhead power for garden railways too!

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:09 am
by drewzero1
Melbournesparks wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:25 am You can do overhead power for garden railways too!
I've seen it and love what you've done! I'm really interested in trying overhead wire power too but it's definitely going to have to wait until my kids are older and less destructive.

Re: Shunting on the wrong track!

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:47 pm
by HugoFitz
dudeface wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:57 pm
HugoFitz wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:38 pm Mini Loco and capstan
https://youtu.be/PP1UA4ZxN6A?si=sO2y9g2HYKeQqQAA

No idea how to embed!
Take off the ?si and everything after and use [video][/video].
Thank you! Fixed it now :D