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Has anyone got any suggestions as to the possible real life origins of the IP Engineering Jessie loco?
I know it's a 'Freelance' design but I'm wondering it it was inspired by something, somewhere? It's vaguely reminiscent of the Fowler Peldon ...
.... but only above the running plate.

Any ideas or suggestions?

The reason I'm asking is someone asked on my latest video, which was the oldest loco running on my railway so I thought I'd try tracking down the possible build dates for the prototypes. Some are easy to track down as they are based on specific locos, but others (mostly IPE kitbuilds) are much harder to pin down.

Rik

You could quiz Ivan?

If nothing else, he should be able to give you a date for when the IP "Jessie" was first introduced.

Phil.P

Phil.P wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:00 pm You could quiz Ivan?

If nothing else, he should be able to give you a date for when the IP "Jessie" was first introduced.

Phil.P

I might drop him an email, thanks

Rik

Hi Rik,
Did you drop Ivan a message?

I have acquired a loco that is obviously of the same origins. - Well, above the running plate, but is an 0-6-0.
The cranks look to have been butchered, at some point, and it has a squeaky Micro-Viper ESC.
{picture, if I can make it small enough}

No, I don't think so. It was a while back.
Those fly cranks do seem a bit curtailed!

Rik
PS Wasn't there a 'Jessica' which was a follow on to Jessie?

I believe 'Jessica' was a 6 wheeled version of the same, or similar, type.

Bingo!

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Phil.P

Ivan made a range of steel and white metal diesel models back in the 'oughties.

Older versions of the IP Engineering website are archived in the Wayback Machine. This link shows the range in 2006.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061020193 ... age39.html

Some photos aren't available, but once you know the model name, an internet search will usually turn up photos of completed models on forums and/or personal websites.

Graeme

I also have a Jessica which is an 0-6-0. The cranks are well butchered but in fact we're not the best from new. I built my kit from the box and the cranks were much to be desired and look very similar to the ones shown in Phil's post, all be it with longer cranks. One day I might replace them, probably when I end up having to replace the gearbox, which will be in the cards one day I am sure

Phil.P wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:50 pm Bingo!

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Phil.P

Thats different Phil. I think yours is a 'Jack' 0-6-0 with the cab sat at the rear and a long bonnet

I did wonder.. (if it was 'something else') as I had noticed it does not have a rear 'bonnet'.

Considering it's age, it runs well, but then it is only driving the one axle.
Pity the cranks have been mangled, and no rods. - Or have I got the terminology wrong?

I wonder if a photo and query to Ivan would source some dusty-spares from the depths of a drawer?

Phil.P

Phil.P wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 10:25 am I did wonder.. (if it was 'something else') as I had noticed it does not have a rear 'bonnet'.

Considering it's age, it runs well, but then it is only driving the one axle.
Pity the cranks have been mangled, and no rods. - Or have I got the terminology wrong?

I wonder if a photo and query to Ivan would source some dusty-spares from the depths of a drawer?

Phil.P

Hi Phil, correct terminology for me. If need be I can 3D print you some new cranks and conrods, if you let me know the dimensions between the axles. The cranks will be simple ones like seen on Little Jon etc. I have a number of these already in CAD ready to print, so I would also need to know the axle size, likely 1/8th but might be 3mm, who knows.

Thanks for the offer Steve..
I think they will need to be steel, as it is the rear axle which is driven, and no chain-drive between the other axles..
Not sure how well printed rods would stand up to the forces being applied?

I do have a possible 3D printing job, though:

A while back, I bought a 1:43 Thorneycroft truck, with the intention of converting it to a railtruck. - I blame Giles Favell, for putting this big idea in my head.

When it arrived, I realised it was too small, so would need to be 0-16.5

So it has sat........
Then SW purchased the Hendre Ddu Tramway book, and Narrow Gauge World featured the converted lorry, complete with a drawing. - Sometimes the planets align!

So I will need a modified skip chassis (shortened, probably) for the front 'bogie'.
I had thought it might be possible to get a modified print from someone?

I need to work out dimensions, and where the pivot will be, but think it should be possible to fit the motor at the front, to shaft-drive a trains-axle. Then chain-drive to the rear axle itself.

I have started looking for a finer version of the Delrin chain we use in the larger scales.

Phil.P

I printed some cranks for a Jessie, which a friend was repairing for another friend. They worked fine in PLA. (Original steel conrods had survived but I don't see why 3D printed ones wouldn't work.)



Sounds like Steve also has drawings for these, but let me know of you need any.

Plastic conrods and cranks work great, just as long as you bush them with a bit of brass. I have been doing this for years and never had an issue, just as long as you get the quartering correct

Simon, Steve,
Thank you for the offers.. I will try for steel rods first.

Phil.P

Phil.P wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 5:51 pm Simon, Steve,
Thank you for the offers.. I will try for steel rods first.

Phil.P

If you really struggle finding conrods available then let me know and I can make some steel ones, far easier to just buy them rather than make them though