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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:11 pm

Thanks guys, I thought I should make the effort to provide sustenance for my diesels as I have already made provision for steam with the coal stage. Here are some shots after weathering.... the tank already had sheets marked out in the casting so I have run a rusty line along them. The pipework has been given rust around each of the joins and the cabinet now has a flammable warning sticker...

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Post by philipy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:04 pm

Fantastic as always, Peter.
Think I'm gonna hang up my scalpel and paint brush!!!!
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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:25 pm

philipy:114100 wrote:Fantastic as always, Peter.
Think I'm gonna hang up my scalpel and paint brush!!!!
Don't even think about it Philip.... your work is great and you make what you need for your railway, just as it should be!
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Post by Soar Valley Light » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:37 pm

A truly superb result Peter, as impressive as always and another idea to feed my planning.
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Post by philipy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:42 pm

Peter Butler:114101 wrote: Don't even think about it Philip.
I doubt I could, even if I had been serious with that part of my comment!
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Post by Dr. Bond of the DVLR » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:26 pm

Inspiring detail!
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Post by jim@NAL » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:32 pm

wow better that's brill

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Post by Peter Butler » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:17 pm

Well, it's been a long time, but does anyone remember the Fairlie?
I had to admit defeat when it came to building two identical, and more important, working, power bogies for the beast.
I have a good (very, very good) friend who kindly offered help initially, then ended up doing the whole thing for me. He has both experience and equipment which enabled him to machine all of the parts, design and assemble the bogies, and even paint them for me. Although the wheels were supplied, they didn't run true, no frames were included in the 'kit', neither were any slidebar parts. The motors were different to the ones fitted to the model as bought completed, so didn't fit and had to be re-designed around the pivot bar. All this as a favour with only materials to pay for...... I couldn't believe my luck!
This is how the original bogie looks as fitted to a completed model...

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This is how my bogies have turned out....

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Fitted to the body....

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Just a paint job to finish the model. I hope I can do it justice now as it is such a wonderfully detailed model.

My very good friend has re-discovered his interest in 16mm modelling after a long break from encouraging youngsters to create working railway models at the school he taught at. He will now join our ranks of 16mm garden railway enthusiasts I'm sure.
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Post by Big Jim » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:30 pm

Spot on Peter, I look forwards to seeing it in the flesh soon.

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Post by Peter Butler » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:37 pm

More good news.... the Fairlie went for a trip along the line today under its own power. I connected the two motors to a trailing lead and attached my battery power truck which has 8 rechargeable AA batteries and a speed controller. It ran faultlessly at various speed settings and went through all track and pointwork without any problems.
I should add, it looks fantastic too!
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Post by Soar Valley Light » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:56 pm

A great result all round Peter and a lovely model to be sure. It looks superb even unpainted. Your line makes an equally superb setting for it too.
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Post by jim@NAL » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:07 pm

great work again peter looks fantastic what colour are you going to paint it

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Post by Peter Butler » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:43 pm

Hi Jim, I have only just started to look at colour choices and think it would look quite nice in a deep rich plum? Having checked out the you tube coverage of the Ffestiniog stock it seems my work is cut out (again) to do a proper paint job. All panels are surrounded by a black edge as well as lining. This is going to be a challenge, but I really want this loco to be special.
Any tips would be most appreciated...... please!
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Post by TonyW » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:47 pm

The model is based on the Festiniog's David Lloyd George.
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Post by Peter Butler » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:34 am

Thanks Tony, I didn't know that, but as it is only 'based' on a locomotive I guess I could have a free range when it comes to colour choice? After all, I might (will) name it something completely different to the prototype and run it with stock other than typical Ffestiniog carriages and wagons.
I am so pleased to have an example of this loco in my collection it doesn't seem important to have a faithful replica of a particular locomotive, just as most commercially produced models are only representations of their counterparts, built with financial constraints in mind where detailing is concerned.
I have read elsewhere that people are quick to criticise this particular model as not being 'correct' and can't understand why when so many other locomotives are less detailed or to scale. She looks beautiful to me!
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:26 am

Peter Butler:114253 wrote:  She looks beautiful to me!
Me too .......
Wonderful!

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Post by TonyW » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:12 pm

Peter Butler:114253 wrote:I have read elsewhere that people are quick to criticise this particular model as not being 'correct' and can't understand why when so many other locomotives are less detailed or to scale.
I think the main issue is that people expect it to look like Merddin Emrys (ME), which seems to be the Fairlie that is most desired in model form, but it doesn't. The length, cab sides, boiler shape, clack positions and a whole load of other small things confirm it to be DLG and not ME.

IIRC, ME was in pieces under overhaul when the Bachmann chaps were at Boston Lodge to measure and draw, so they only had DLG to look at.

I've seen a few of these painted as ME and they don't look quite right but as a model of DLG it's pretty good.
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Post by Big Jim » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm

Regarding livery, can I suggest Rail Blue with Double Arrows (or would it be double, double arrows), wasp stripes and overhead electric warning flashes.

Seriously though, lined plum red would look rather splendid.

I have a copy of Ian Rathbones Painting and lining if you wish to have a borrow of it. I also have a few bow pens you can have a play with if you want.

Failing that try an Edding 780 paint marker.
(One of the Mikes in Bowen & Weaving in Blue St should be able to source you some)

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Post by TonyW » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:12 pm

Big Jim:114265 wrote:Regarding livery, can I suggest Rail Blue with Double Arrows (or would it be double, double arrows), wasp stripes and overhead electric warning flashes.
Mmmm... BR blue...
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Post by Big Jim » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:18 pm

At risk of having my head removed and people spitting down my neck hole, I actually quite like BR blue on a steam engine, the double arrows perhaps not.

While not quite the same shade, the express blue painted on the SR Bulleid spam cans looked spot on.

I'll get me coat.

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