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Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:40 am
by Keith S
dewintondave wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:50 pm [quote=tom_tom_go post_id=152022 time=<a href="tel:1584777506">1584777506</a> user_id=395]
Why does the prototype have that cut out, is it purely cosmetic?
I don't know. Perhaps it's to give it a graceful swallow-like appearance befitting a mainline engine ;)
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The Ffestiniog locos have a leading axle, and are 2-4-0 now: maybe this has something to to with that cut-out in the frame.

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:47 am
by dewintondave
Manual CNC'ing the radii of the central slot

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Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:00 am
by TonyW
Keith S wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:40 amThe Ffestiniog locos have a leading axle, and are 2-4-0 now: maybe this has something to to with that cut-out in the frame.
The frames were also extended at the front (by about 8 inches, IIRC) when the pony trucks were fitted.

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:55 pm
by dewintondave
TonyW wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:00 am
Keith S wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:40 amThe Ffestiniog locos have a leading axle, and are 2-4-0 now: maybe this has something to to with that cut-out in the frame.
The frames were also extended at the front (by about 8 inches, IIRC) at the front when the pony trucks were fitted.
It's awful what they did to those locos, even fitted piston valves to Blanche

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:19 am
by TonyW
dewintondave wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:55 pmIt's awful what they did to those locos, even fitted piston valves to Blanche
I'd be interested to read your thoughts on what should have happened to them.

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:32 pm
by dewintondave
TonyW wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:19 am
dewintondave wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:55 pmIt's awful what they did to those locos, even fitted piston valves to Blanche
I'd be interested to read your thoughts on what should have happened to them.
IMO, they should be as near as the original as possible Tony. Unless they have repented I hope they don't get their hands on Charles ;)

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:20 am
by TonyW
dewintondave wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:32 pmIMO, they should be as near as the original as possible Tony. Unless they have repented I hope they don't get their hands on Charles ;)
Interesting, thank you. In my view, IF they had been left in original condition they would have been of no use to the Festiniog for a variety of reasons including poor lubrication, poor frame design, insufficient fuel capacity and too big for Garnedd tunnel. I think it fair to say that if the FR had not taken them then their future would have been very different (export to the USA maybe?), as would have been the future of the FR.

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:43 am
by dewintondave
TonyW wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:20 am Interesting, thank you. In my view, IF they had been left in original condition they would have been of no use to the Festiniog for a variety of reasons including poor lubrication, poor frame design, insufficient fuel capacity and too big for Garnedd tunnel. I think it fair to say that if the FR had not taken them then their future would have been very different (export to the USA maybe?), as would have been the future of the FR.
Thank you Tony. Let's hope Charles remains original

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:57 am
by dewintondave
Got the keepers finished. Next job axle boxes

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Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:35 am
by FWLR
Nice work Dave. :thumbright:

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:16 pm
by Old Man Aaron
That's some really professional work right there. Even your lathe is quite nice, especially compared to mine. :roll:

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:59 am
by dewintondave
Thank you lads :thumbup:

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:21 am
by dewintondave
Finally the frames will stand up on their own - just. Drilling and fitting the angle pieces at the moment

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Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:37 am
by bambuko
Nice work Dave :thumbright:
I am slightly confused :scratch: , because you've said before that you are not planning to have sprung axleboxes,
but looking at your last photo (too small to be totally sure) there appear to be pockets for axlebox springs?
Any chances of close up photo and clarification from you?

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:01 am
by dewintondave
Thank you!

Those are slots to pass the rod from the axle box to the leaf springs above. It's all likely to be solid as the loco could be rather lively with such overhangs if it were sprung, but we will see :thumbup:

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:39 am
by dewintondave
Having a go at making the leaf springs. The leaves need further trimming in length to get the profile better

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Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:45 am
by tom_tom_go
Your photos are not doing your work justice.

Can you up the resolution when you resize?

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:46 am
by FWLR
They do look great though... :thumbright:

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 8:57 am
by dewintondave
:D I'm using my budget phone camera, I'm a lo-fi kind of guy. No studio photography here ;)

Re: Charles - Penrhyn Mainline Hunslet

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 12:12 am
by Hydrostatic Dazza
Nice springs, lovely stuff.
Keep feeding the pics and updates.
I now wish I had taken the trouble to make spring.
Perhaps next time.