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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by ge_rik » Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:15 am

I was going to say that this looked very much like a Peter Butler project and then noticed it was you who posted it.
I think you might have needed to wallpaper it rather than trying to paint that livery, Peter.

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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by Peter Butler » Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:55 am

Somewhere I have seen a colour illustration of that loco, so in theory it might be possible to copy and print 'wallpaper'? I still think it is a step too far to build one, and besides that, my Viceroy has retired!
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by dudeface » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:16 pm

GAP wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:27 pm Speaking tube,
Duh... :roll:
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by GAP » Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:56 pm

dudeface wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:16 pm
GAP wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:27 pm Speaking tube,
Duh... :roll:
Make/ask a silly statement/question expect a silly answer. Australian humour ;) ;)
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by rebelego » Tue Dec 26, 2023 3:44 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:19 pm This is the vehicle I have wanted to build more than any other for many years but always chickened out!...
This loco can be found at the Egyptian Railway Museum in Cairo.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3611/351 ... cde2_b.jpg

https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsConten ... airo-.aspx

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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:43 pm

Wonderful news that the loco survives today, I have read the article and will do more research on it now, so thank you for the information!
I still have doubts it will make an appearance in model form, but it is a definite maybe.
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by rebelego » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:58 pm

Found some info here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrainPorn/comm ... iceroy_of/
Three of these distinctive 2-2-4 locomotives were built in the late 1850s and early 1860s by Robert Stephenson & Co in Newcastle, each with a luxurious saloon mounted behind the footplate. According to a contemporary issue of the Newcastle Courant, “The exterior of the train is decorated with arabesque designs of black, white and gold, in the first style of art, from the designs of Mr Digby Wyatt”. One of them, known as the Pasha's train, can be admired today in the railway museum in Cairo.

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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by philipy » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:03 am

On the subject of weird and wonderful Egyptian loco's, how about this one?
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I found it on this site: https://egyptiangeographic.com/en/news/show/478

Plus on this link is a coach to go with the very ornate Pasha's loco seen previously: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/super-br ... ran-tahoun
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:21 pm

There are some magnificent beasts there but finding a way to narrow gauge them to 2ft. might be a problem. Perhaps that's why I haven't tried before?
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by dudeface » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm

I guess that's sort of a secondary boiler on the top?
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by Keith S » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:38 pm

My guess is it's some kind of feedwater heater. If so, it's the biggest one I've ever seen.

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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:52 am

OK - This gives a whole different meaning to "Tank Locomotive"
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by dudeface » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:51 pm

Yeah........... except it's not real. Definitely photoshopped.
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:54 pm

dudeface wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:51 pm Yeah........... except it's not real. Definitely photoshopped.
Interesting, I did wonder why the upper tracks weren't in evidence.

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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by drewzero1 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:55 pm

dudeface wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:51 pm Yeah........... except it's not real. Definitely photoshopped.
Not yet, anyways... I think I left those tank treads around here somewhere...

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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:42 pm

This one is definitely not photoshopped, therefore must be real...
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Re: Marc Horovitz is Wrong. (IMO)

Post by dudeface » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:57 pm

Of course you would Peter. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ugly locomotives

Post by dudeface » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:43 am

Don't suppose Marc would approve of this one:
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Re: Ugly locomotives

Post by dudeface » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:52 am

drewzero1 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:51 am On the thread where I found it, someone suggested it was indeed to improve draft, and also that it was an odd feature on something that wasn't a rack loco. I have seen a particular make of traction engines use the same kind of slanted boiler, can't remember which it was though.
I just realized that this is actually putting the boiler in the same situation it would be in on a cog railway loco without an angled boiler... seriously, what kind of nut came up with this? :dontknow: :scratch:
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Re: Ugly locomotives

Post by drewzero1 » Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:27 pm

We might have mentioned this one here,



The Wisconsin connection is interesting (some were manufactured under license here). I have some ancestors who worked in logging around that time, wonder if they ever worked with these?

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