Gmeinder & Co loco

[philipy]

Thanks Peter.
Yes I remember the conversation when Jerry first brought those out. In fact I did have some correspondence with him at the time about which resin he used. From looking at the pictures, I think his links are thicker than mine and I think his resin was a more 'engineering quality' than mine is. My links are only 1mm diameter, which is why I'm doubtful about their actual strength. It does potentially prove the point that I could do it if I needed to ( the tricky bit is getting the links to not stick together when printing/curing because the clearances in the eyebolt are unmeasurable), but the cost of specialised resin for just a couple of couplings, does not compute!

[FWLR]

Oh, and I've also worked out how to use Giphy!

I knew if I put it off long enough my guide would be unnecessary! (Almost done anyway!)
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Hope you can both can enlighten soon...

[drewzero1]

Hope you can both can enlighten soon...

Sure thing Rod, I'll post it up as soon as I find the time to finish it!

[philipy]

You may remember a few weeks back we had some discussion about what the red blobs are, by the blackout headlight in the original photo. Well, this morning I was looking at the pictures to get the correct position for drilling the headlight mounting hole, when I realised that there are no red blobs on the latest rusty pic, but there is now a light coloured 'something' behind the light and visible though the gap. i.e there are no 'blobs', red or otherwise. Whatever it is, the red paint must have worn off over the years.

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[ge_rik]

I might be wrong, but I think the red blobs and yellow smudge are actually in the background way behind the loco.

Rik

[philipy]

Thanks Rik, I wouldn't argue about that. Either way it isn't part of the loco, so I'm not too fussed as to what it actually is.

[Peter Butler]

A must see video of a Gmeinder loco, and several others, working in preservation in a superb quarry location....

[drewzero1]

A must see video of a Gmeinder loco, and several others, working in preservation in a superb quarry location....

Ausgezeichnet, super toll! Love the video, Peter. That Siemens battery loco is really booking it. Can't believe I went right past this museum and Cité du Train and missed them both!

[ge_rik]

Really interesting. A good train of wagons with inside frames for Gregh ......

Rik

[philipy]

Yes, it is a fascinating location. What really struck me though, was the speeds they were running at. More like a lot of toy train layouts than a proper railway! They obviously don't pay a lot of attention to 'elf 'n safety, 'due diligence', 'risk assessment', etc, either.

[philipy]

Coming back to my loco, I'm open to thoughts on 'red'.

As I mentioned some while back, German railways are well known for red wheels etc. I kind of had it in mind that in military service this wouldn't have had that embellishment and the red axles boxes, etc, in the original photo could have been part of a post-war civilianisation.
However, looking carefully at the latest 'rusty' photo, although there are several shades of grey layers visible in the flaking body paint, the axleboxes only seem to have a couple of shades of red, implying that they have always only been red. Furthermore, there seems to be a reddish/brown basecoat on the lower frames, but I'm not sure if that could be a red oxide primer or if it indicates that the underframes were red as well?

Any thoughts anyone?

[philipy]

Well here it is.



In the end I painted it in standard early 1940's "Panzer grey", which is currently RAL 7021 and as far as I can tell was also used for Luftwaffe ground vehicles. I decided against the red embellishments since I'm not sure if they are correct ( and I don't like them!) although I did tip the various cab levers in red, as the photo's indicate.

The sound is the Chinese Cheapo Sound card, with no attenuation or sound reduction. I don't really like the sound so I suspect I'll just turn it off, but it will be there if needed.

As you can see, it runs a bit fast which I always suspected would be the case, but the motor only had one option for the gearbox and I was seduced by the extended transverse axle which makes installation dead easy. I'm currently debating whether to swap it for a slower more conventional motor/gearbox combination, which will also give it a bit more power.

Peter, you were right about the printed couplings, they do seem to be more robust than I feared . As you can see the loco is happily pulling these 4 skips and the printed coupling on the loco seems to be ok so far.

[ge_rik]

Looks and sounds great, Philip.

Rik

[Peter Butler]

I think it looks great and you have made an exceptional job of it. I'm still not a fan of sound effects, but this one doesn't annoy me, perhaps it might if exposed to it for longer?
So pleased the coupling chains turned out OK, it's only because I remembered Jerry's experiments with his own prints.

[drewzero1]

It looks just like the photo come to life! Seems just right leading those skips too.

[philipy]

Thanks chaps.
As a bit of a "thank you" I also sent a link to the video to the guy at the museum who assisted with the check measurements and pic. He replied straight awy with
"That is spectacular!!! Thanks for sharing it with me.

Cheers,
Zack"
Which I thought was rather nice of him..

[Old Man Aaron]

The all-over grey really suits the loco, and adds to the gruff charm of the thing.

I will admit I'm no fan of cheapy sound, but through the video, that doesn't seem half bad.

That quarry railway is really neat, too.

[FWLR]

Nice that Philip. Love the colour too, it looks proper moody

[drewzero1]

I've not found the significance of the oak leaf wreath

A bit of a late response, and maybe not relevant to the discussion any more, but oak leaves are a national symbol of Germany with roots back to the pre-Roman times. I thought this article did a pretty good job encapsulating the connection... though it did take me two weeks to get around to finishing reading it!

https://coinsweekly.com/german-oaks-and ... entiments/

[Andrew]

Lovely! It looks perfect on those skips. Great understated colour... And I thnk the cheapo sound card's pretty good...